Comments on: Want an Android phone that’s 3x’s faster? Myriad wants to give it to you. http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/ Google Android phones, news and apps Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:54:04 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Robert Cooper http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8441 Robert Cooper Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:32:31 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8441 I am not saying the speed promises are unreasonable. I question the compatibility/stability and the effect on the ecosystem of having a non-Android VM implementation. I am not saying the speed promises are unreasonable. I question the compatibility/stability and the effect on the ecosystem of having a non-Android VM implementation.

]]> By: Westy http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8420 Westy Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:18:16 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8420 I sold my G1 for 150 bucks unlocked, Just do a warranty exchange that way you can sell it as a refurbished G1 Then call T-mobile for your unlock code to unlock the phone. that should help shave off 150 bucks off of the N1. I would like a keyboard but i am absolute in love with my N1. I sold my G1 for 150 bucks unlocked, Just do a warranty exchange that way you can sell it as a refurbished G1 Then call T-mobile for your unlock code to unlock the phone. that should help shave off 150 bucks off of the N1. I would like a keyboard but i am absolute in love with my N1.

]]> By: vonbrownz http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8414 vonbrownz Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:51:02 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8414 Don't feel like the Lone Ranger! Don't feel like the Lone Ranger!

]]> By: GearSoft http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8411 GearSoft Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:40:13 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8411 Its very UNLIKELY to be too good to be true. The source drop Google did for the AOSP which contains the preliminary JIT is already 1.5-2.5 times faster than non-JIT Android. Google has made it VERY clear the JIT code drop was a very early version of the JIT which is lacking many internally available optimizations and stabilization improvements. Several of the JIT optimizations to which Google has made whispers, alone can make huge additional performance gains over and above what is already available in the AOSP code base. Its very UNLIKELY to be too good to be true. The source drop Google did for the AOSP which contains the preliminary JIT is already 1.5-2.5 times faster than non-JIT Android. Google has made it VERY clear the JIT code drop was a very early version of the JIT which is lacking many internally available optimizations and stabilization improvements. Several of the JIT optimizations to which Google has made whispers, alone can make huge additional performance gains over and above what is already available in the AOSP code base.

]]> By: GearSoft http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8410 GearSoft Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:38:04 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8410 Its very UNLIKELY to be too good to be true. The source drop Google did for the AOSP which contains the preliminary JIT is already 1.5-2.5 times faster than non-JIT Android. Google has made it VERY clear the JIT code drop was a very early version of the JIT which is lacking many internally available optimizations and stabilization improvements. Several of the JIT optimizations to which Google has made whispers, alone can make huge additional performance gains over and above what is already available in the AOSP code base. This very likely means Google's internal build of the JIT is already 3x+ faster than the non-JIT Dalkvik VM. As such, it would not hard to a properly funded and knowledgeable group to take the AOSP code drop and run with it, providing an equivalent performance boost. Accordingly, I would not expect the code to be available for free and as such, I would not expect to see Turbo Dalkvik available in any Android offering outside of a commercial environment - unless they are making provisions for unofficial ROM developers. And I saw no such provisions in the above announcement. The real question is, how do these guys hope to compete when Google is likely nearing an Android release with extremely significant JIT performance boosts looming just over the horizon. Its very UNLIKELY to be too good to be true. The source drop Google did for the AOSP which contains the preliminary JIT is already 1.5-2.5 times faster than non-JIT Android. Google has made it VERY clear the JIT code drop was a very early version of the JIT which is lacking many internally available optimizations and stabilization improvements. Several of the JIT optimizations to which Google has made whispers, alone can make huge additional performance gains over and above what is already available in the AOSP code base.

This very likely means Google’s internal build of the JIT is already 3x+ faster than the non-JIT Dalkvik VM. As such, it would not hard to a properly funded and knowledgeable group to take the AOSP code drop and run with it, providing an equivalent performance boost. Accordingly, I would not expect the code to be available for free and as such, I would not expect to see Turbo Dalkvik available in any Android offering outside of a commercial environment – unless they are making provisions for unofficial ROM developers. And I saw no such provisions in the above announcement.

The real question is, how do these guys hope to compete when Google is likely nearing an Android release with extremely significant JIT performance boosts looming just over the horizon.

]]> By: Robert Cooper http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8404 Robert Cooper Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:59:17 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8404 This smells like BS to me. I know the JIT in the core Android tree is still a little unstable, but my guess is there is no way this is a clean room Dalvik implementation. They might have picked up the ball and ran a way with the JIT support outside the upstream tree BUT... THIS is fragmentation. The problem with Java ME was that there were multiple runtime implementations that required "Write Once Debug Everywhere." That there is one VM runtime and cross-version runtime library support on devices has really saved developers from TONS of pain as Android has moved quickly from the milestone builds to 2.1.1. If people have to start dealing with multiple Dalviks, that will suck This smells like BS to me. I know the JIT in the core Android tree is still a little unstable, but my guess is there is no way this is a clean room Dalvik implementation. They might have picked up the ball and ran a way with the JIT support outside the upstream tree BUT…

THIS is fragmentation. The problem with Java ME was that there were multiple runtime implementations that required "Write Once Debug Everywhere." That there is one VM runtime and cross-version runtime library support on devices has really saved developers from TONS of pain as Android has moved quickly from the milestone builds to 2.1.1. If people have to start dealing with multiple Dalviks, that will suck

]]> By: AndrewKam http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8401 AndrewKam Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:43:09 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8401 the announcement for this went out late yesterday when a lot of people probably stopped blogging or missed it. you'll probably see this appear on other sites later today. the announcement for this went out late yesterday when a lot of people probably stopped blogging or missed it. you'll probably see this appear on other sites later today.

]]> By: Casper http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8399 Casper Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:05:56 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8399 It sounds similar to the official JIT in the Android tree, which we'll probably see default on devices later this year. It sounds similar to the official JIT in the Android tree, which we'll probably see default on devices later this year.

]]> By: @ogwilson http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8395 @ogwilson Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:49:00 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8395 This sounds amazing. I hope the mod community gets their hands on this and are able to use it for the G1 somehow, because mine is really on its last legs, and I still have an entire year on contract =/ This sounds amazing. I hope the mod community gets their hands on this and are able to use it for the G1 somehow, because mine is really on its last legs, and I still have an entire year on contract =/

]]> By: nexus one case http://androinica.com/2010/02/08/want-an-android-phone-thats-3xs-faster-myriad-wants-to-give-it-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-8393 nexus one case Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:04:48 +0000 http://androinica.com/?p=7067#comment-8393 I hope to get something like this in future. It would be really great to have this kind of device as it will really fast. I hope to get something like this in future. It would be really great to have this kind of device as it will really fast.

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