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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems you need to really get that straight ...unlimited for the handset period.......no gap.....and theres really no cool on having to pay more! for somthing that is not needed, when like someone said  &quot;pdanet is ur friend&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems you need to really get that straight &#8230;unlimited for the handset period&#8230;&#8230;.no gap&#8230;..and theres really no cool on having to pay more! for somthing that is not needed, when like someone said  &quot;pdanet is ur friend&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get a truly &quot;Unlimited&quot; plan for $45 per month and then $15 for the tethering capability. I had a smart phone with Windows Mobile OS up until a week ago, when I got my Droid and I had that plan. I dropped the $15 extension, because I can&#039;t tether my Droid, which I wasn&#039;t happy about, but they tell me that will follow. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get a truly &quot;Unlimited&quot; plan for $45 per month and then $15 for the tethering capability. I had a smart phone with Windows Mobile OS up until a week ago, when I got my Droid and I had that plan. I dropped the $15 extension, because I can&#039;t tether my Droid, which I wasn&#039;t happy about, but they tell me that will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Haynie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Haynie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The terminology is, well, kind of stupid. But hey, at least they&#039;re going to officially allow tethering and some form of upping the usage cap without paying some crazy overages.  
 
A couple of things... it&#039;s definitely true that the &quot;unlimited&quot; regular data plan is capped at 5GB. They say unlimited, but it seems that basically, all of the cell phone guys have got together and decided that 5GB is damn near impossible to use on any smart phone unless you&#039;re doing something explicitly forbidden... like running a web sever, or say, tethering. This isn&#039;t actually true... try watching YouTube in HD for 6 or so hours, and you&#039;ll blow that cap (assuming the YouTube app actually accepts an HD stream). Or if that won&#039;t do it, try 80-something hours of high quality streaming audio.  
 
In your &quot;MyVerizon&quot;, they say unlimited, but when you sign up, there&#039;s an &quot;Unlimited (5GB)&quot;. But you read the actual agreement, it says &quot;Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.&quot;  
 
When you get a tethering agreement, it&#039;ll be treated the same as a &quot;Wireless Broadband&quot; plan... a very up-front, well stated 5GB per month limit. This is a change... I had this service some years back, and there was no open limit. They still had a limit... just didn&#039;t tell you about it. If you used too much data, they just send you a &quot;Dear John&quot; letter, kicking you off the system (more like 10GB, based on those I met in forums who had been cut off). But hey, if you ever need to get out of your contract without paying it off... but check if they have overage fees :-) 
 
The uncomfortable part of this is that it sounds like they&#039;re offering 5GB for tethering and 5GB for normal use, not simply a pool of 10GB that, oh-by-the-way, allows tethering.This suggests there&#039;s going to be a tethering server or some-such to meter the tethering activity. Which is a shame... openly allowing this could yield some cool apps... make your DROID a wireless access point, for example (of course, you could tether your DROID to one PC and use something like &quot;Connectify&quot; to build the access point, at least if you have Windows 7).  A great deal over a MiFi if you don&#039;t need it every day.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The terminology is, well, kind of stupid. But hey, at least they&#039;re going to officially allow tethering and some form of upping the usage cap without paying some crazy overages.  </p>
<p>A couple of things&#8230; it&#039;s definitely true that the &quot;unlimited&quot; regular data plan is capped at 5GB. They say unlimited, but it seems that basically, all of the cell phone guys have got together and decided that 5GB is damn near impossible to use on any smart phone unless you&#039;re doing something explicitly forbidden&#8230; like running a web sever, or say, tethering. This isn&#039;t actually true&#8230; try watching YouTube in HD for 6 or so hours, and you&#039;ll blow that cap (assuming the YouTube app actually accepts an HD stream). Or if that won&#039;t do it, try 80-something hours of high quality streaming audio.  </p>
<p>In your &quot;MyVerizon&quot;, they say unlimited, but when you sign up, there&#039;s an &quot;Unlimited (5GB)&quot;. But you read the actual agreement, it says &quot;Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.&quot;  </p>
<p>When you get a tethering agreement, it&#039;ll be treated the same as a &quot;Wireless Broadband&quot; plan&#8230; a very up-front, well stated 5GB per month limit. This is a change&#8230; I had this service some years back, and there was no open limit. They still had a limit&#8230; just didn&#039;t tell you about it. If you used too much data, they just send you a &quot;Dear John&quot; letter, kicking you off the system (more like 10GB, based on those I met in forums who had been cut off). But hey, if you ever need to get out of your contract without paying it off&#8230; but check if they have overage fees <img src='http://androinica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>The uncomfortable part of this is that it sounds like they&#039;re offering 5GB for tethering and 5GB for normal use, not simply a pool of 10GB that, oh-by-the-way, allows tethering.This suggests there&#039;s going to be a tethering server or some-such to meter the tethering activity. Which is a shame&#8230; openly allowing this could yield some cool apps&#8230; make your DROID a wireless access point, for example (of course, you could tether your DROID to one PC and use something like &quot;Connectify&quot; to build the access point, at least if you have Windows 7).  A great deal over a MiFi if you don&#039;t need it every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Davest010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davest010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries...there&#039;s already a thread on xda stating that developers have rooted the Hero and have Bluetooth tethering working already.  It won&#039;t be long before the Droid can be rooted too.  Of course then you&#039;ll have to share the same 5 GB between tethering and normal use, but most won&#039;t use that much data anyway. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries&#8230;there&#039;s already a thread on xda stating that developers have rooted the Hero and have Bluetooth tethering working already.  It won&#039;t be long before the Droid can be rooted too.  Of course then you&#039;ll have to share the same 5 GB between tethering and normal use, but most won&#039;t use that much data anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: robertnelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>robertnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea, because while you are paying for a second plan on the same device. That is the nice part to me. But that is based off my experience.  
 
I am currently paying for two plans with Sprint. One for my HTC Hero and one for my MiFi. It would be nice if I could tether my Hero and not have to carry and use that second device (the MiFi). 
 
Plus having two plans gives me more allowance toward transfer.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea, because while you are paying for a second plan on the same device. That is the nice part to me. But that is based off my experience.  </p>
<p>I am currently paying for two plans with Sprint. One for my HTC Hero and one for my MiFi. It would be nice if I could tether my Hero and not have to carry and use that second device (the MiFi). </p>
<p>Plus having two plans gives me more allowance toward transfer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler_Braun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler_Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K that makes sense to me. So it sounds like you can go over the 5gb and they aren&#039;t going to charge you for extra usage but if you prove to them that you use too much (theoretically impossible almost) then they could start enforcing it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K that makes sense to me. So it sounds like you can go over the 5gb and they aren&#039;t going to charge you for extra usage but if you prove to them that you use too much (theoretically impossible almost) then they could start enforcing it.</p>
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		<title>By: dandirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dandirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it cool having a second data plan for the same device?  Is there any other use of this other then have unlimted 5GB via phone and an additional 5GB via tethering? 
 
Sure some people my exceed the &quot;unlimited&quot; threshold enough to warrant response from vzw, but 99% would not...  so 2 plans = FAIL.   I am using my phones internet, shouldn&#039;t matter if the phone or a PC is using it.  Same speed, same service.  This lame fee is just another pure profit charge just like text...  Won&#039;t people just learn. 
 
Can you use the second data plan for the 2nd phone on your plan... probably not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it cool having a second data plan for the same device?  Is there any other use of this other then have unlimted 5GB via phone and an additional 5GB via tethering? </p>
<p>Sure some people my exceed the &quot;unlimited&quot; threshold enough to warrant response from vzw, but 99% would not&#8230;  so 2 plans = FAIL.   I am using my phones internet, shouldn&#039;t matter if the phone or a PC is using it.  Same speed, same service.  This lame fee is just another pure profit charge just like text&#8230;  Won&#039;t people just learn. </p>
<p>Can you use the second data plan for the 2nd phone on your plan&#8230; probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewKam</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewKam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;unlimited&quot; is a false claim that carriers and other ISP&#039;s have often used. They say unlimited because its estimated that most users would never crash that threshold. It&#039;s &quot;reasonable&quot; for them that most users would have only 5 gigs of data so they feel comfortable saying unlimited even though they reserve the right to place caps on people with &quot;unreasonable&quot; levels of usage. It&#039;s a misleading claim that shouldn&#039;t be used but its commonplace. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &quot;unlimited&quot; is a false claim that carriers and other ISP&#039;s have often used. They say unlimited because its estimated that most users would never crash that threshold. It&#039;s &quot;reasonable&quot; for them that most users would have only 5 gigs of data so they feel comfortable saying unlimited even though they reserve the right to place caps on people with &quot;unreasonable&quot; levels of usage. It&#039;s a misleading claim that shouldn&#039;t be used but its commonplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler_Braun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler_Braun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you explain how the &quot;unlimited&quot; but cap of 5gb data works? I&#039;ve called Verizon, I&#039;ve looked over the plan myself and I still don&#039;t see that anywhere...nor does it make sense to me if you can&#039;t get a truly unlimited plan at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you explain how the &quot;unlimited&quot; but cap of 5gb data works? I&#039;ve called Verizon, I&#039;ve looked over the plan myself and I still don&#039;t see that anywhere&#8230;nor does it make sense to me if you can&#039;t get a truly unlimited plan at all.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pdanet is your friend.</description>
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