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	<title>Comments on: Can 3rd-party Android apps survive competition from an official app?</title>
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		<title>By: AndroidTapp.com</title>
		<link>http://androinica.com/2009/10/27/can-3rd-party-android-apps-survive-competition-from-an-official-app/comment-page-1/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>AndroidTapp.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, this is a case by case basis. I predict Microsoft Exchange 3rd party apps will fall unless they can offer more value or niche services and price accordingly. Whereas, Facebook 3rd party apps are a tad bit better than the &quot;official&quot; version using this approach. However, if the &quot;official&quot; app creators use the same formula, then it could spell 3rd party demise. :-( </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this is a case by case basis. I predict Microsoft Exchange 3rd party apps will fall unless they can offer more value or niche services and price accordingly. Whereas, Facebook 3rd party apps are a tad bit better than the &quot;official&quot; version using this approach. However, if the &quot;official&quot; app creators use the same formula, then it could spell 3rd party demise. <img src='http://androinica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure about the rest, but as a regular user of Toggle Settings I think it will last quite well, in fact I think they should probably put a nominal charge on it as it is really useful (I would definitely buy it) - reminds me of the profiles in nokia&#039;s symbian except more powerful.

the Power Control widget just doesn&#039;t really do it - I can see this widget replacing other widgets like individual switches for wireless etc, but it doesn&#039;t do the one great thing that Toggle Settings does - which is to allow a user to set up profiles, and then set up rules on how and when those profiles start and stop. I love it - now I never get woken up by calls because I have forgotten to silence my phone - Toggle Settings does it for me - I don&#039;t have to worry about calls disturbing my meetings - Toggle Settings has already switched from my home to work profile which I made to include switching ringer to vibrate - and i don&#039;t miss calls on the way home anymore, cause Toggle Settings automatically switches back to Home from Work. 

As c0z said - it provides a niche that the standard apps don&#039;t cover, it looks good, has very few bugs (running CyanogenMod - which might explain the one bug I have found so far - not a deal breaker - not notifying me when it changes a profile, even though the option is ticked - used to work before changing from cupcake to donut with change from 4.04 to 4.2.1) and really does work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure about the rest, but as a regular user of Toggle Settings I think it will last quite well, in fact I think they should probably put a nominal charge on it as it is really useful (I would definitely buy it) &#8211; reminds me of the profiles in nokia&#8217;s symbian except more powerful.</p>
<p>the Power Control widget just doesn&#8217;t really do it &#8211; I can see this widget replacing other widgets like individual switches for wireless etc, but it doesn&#8217;t do the one great thing that Toggle Settings does &#8211; which is to allow a user to set up profiles, and then set up rules on how and when those profiles start and stop. I love it &#8211; now I never get woken up by calls because I have forgotten to silence my phone &#8211; Toggle Settings does it for me &#8211; I don&#8217;t have to worry about calls disturbing my meetings &#8211; Toggle Settings has already switched from my home to work profile which I made to include switching ringer to vibrate &#8211; and i don&#8217;t miss calls on the way home anymore, cause Toggle Settings automatically switches back to Home from Work. </p>
<p>As c0z said &#8211; it provides a niche that the standard apps don&#8217;t cover, it looks good, has very few bugs (running CyanogenMod &#8211; which might explain the one bug I have found so far &#8211; not a deal breaker &#8211; not notifying me when it changes a profile, even though the option is ticked &#8211; used to work before changing from cupcake to donut with change from 4.04 to 4.2.1) and really does work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Krupa</title>
		<link>http://androinica.com/2009/10/27/can-3rd-party-android-apps-survive-competition-from-an-official-app/comment-page-1/#comment-4331</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Krupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how well Power Manager, Toggle Settings and their many peers will fair after the addition of the Power Control widget in Donut. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how well Power Manager, Toggle Settings and their many peers will fair after the addition of the Power Control widget in Donut.</p>
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		<title>By: PureImagination</title>
		<link>http://androinica.com/2009/10/27/can-3rd-party-android-apps-survive-competition-from-an-official-app/comment-page-1/#comment-4326</link>
		<dc:creator>PureImagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touchdown was a welcomed app to me on my g1.  Even with the new exchange app I am sticking with Touchdown.  It offers many more features and syncs with my exchange server better than the new &quot;stock&quot; app.  But GV was great before the official app but now I have switched.  If only someone would put out a working Flash 3rd party then they could make some money!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touchdown was a welcomed app to me on my g1.  Even with the new exchange app I am sticking with Touchdown.  It offers many more features and syncs with my exchange server better than the new &quot;stock&quot; app.  But GV was great before the official app but now I have switched.  If only someone would put out a working Flash 3rd party then they could make some money!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewKam</title>
		<link>http://androinica.com/2009/10/27/can-3rd-party-android-apps-survive-competition-from-an-official-app/comment-page-1/#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewKam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>feel free to plug. I mention the podcast when it inspires story ideas. :) I think it&#039;s case by case as well. I used Remember the Milk long before I knew anything about Astrid but I doubt RTM could do anything at this point to make me switch to their official app. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>feel free to plug. I mention the podcast when it inspires story ideas. <img src='http://androinica.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think it&#039;s case by case as well. I used Remember the Milk long before I knew anything about Astrid but I doubt RTM could do anything at this point to make me switch to their official app.</p>
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		<title>By: c0z</title>
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		<dc:creator>c0z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said last night on the podcast for AndroidGuys (sorry for plug, Andrew), I think this is a case by case basis when it comes to what is going to be used. Sometimes the native app sucks, sometimes the official app sucks, and sometimes a third-party replacement for any of these sucks. It also depends on whether or not the user wants to pay for an app in the market, or doesn&#039;t like using things that replace what native applications can already do. Some of the third-party apps neglect seamless integration like the native apps sometimes include.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said last night on the podcast for AndroidGuys (sorry for plug, Andrew), I think this is a case by case basis when it comes to what is going to be used. Sometimes the native app sucks, sometimes the official app sucks, and sometimes a third-party replacement for any of these sucks. It also depends on whether or not the user wants to pay for an app in the market, or doesn&#039;t like using things that replace what native applications can already do. Some of the third-party apps neglect seamless integration like the native apps sometimes include.</p>
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		<title>By: DTU</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We covered this at uni with the iPhone. Honestly, there&#039;s no point developing an app to fill a hole that will eventually be filled, you&#039;re better of making something that adds niche functionality that won&#039;t ever be addressed in an &#039;official&#039; update. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We covered this at uni with the iPhone. Honestly, there&#039;s no point developing an app to fill a hole that will eventually be filled, you&#039;re better of making something that adds niche functionality that won&#039;t ever be addressed in an &#039;official&#039; update.</p>
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